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Above and Below eduGAIN (inc. eScience requirements driven activities)

eduTEAMs Related

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Placeholder to include (and potentially continue) some of AARC work

Description

I would like to have a placeholder to include work that my be triggered by the revisited list of FIM4R requirements, as well as by AARC.  Furthermore, I'd also like to include in this box liaisons with EOSC hub concerning their T&I architecture developments and adoption/support of FIM technologies. This item cannot and should not be more specific than this at this point in time.

ProposerLicia Florio
Resource requirementsCoordination work, resources
+1's<for others to voice their support - add your name here>


Title

eduTEAMS enhancements

DescriptioneduTEAMS work is progressing; there are different options for deploying eduTEAMS. This work item looks at the requirements for eduTEAMS when used by eScience collaborations. There will be lessons learned after the pilot with the life science community. I propose we have a placeholder so work on this does not go off radar during the planning.
ProposerLicia Florio
Resource requirementsEffort mostly
+1's<for others to voice their support - add your name here>


Title

Discovery for Attribute Authorities (AAs)

Description

Users can select their IdP via discovery, therefore the SP can potentially receive users from thousands of IdPs.

There is no such facility for AA-s however, meaning that SP-s need to hard-configure which AAs they query. Also, query all the configured AAs for all users all the time.

In GN4-1-JRA3-T1 it has been established that this is a serious bottleneck, as maximum 2-3 AAs can be queried without breaking the entire login session.

A better approach is needed. The SPs need to query AAs selectively, based on either user input or some alternative means, like some VO lookup service. Otherwise all SPs will just stick with the biggest AAs like eduTEAMS basic membership service or hexaa.eduid.hu and not query alternative entities, making single-tenant AAs very unattractive.

ProposerMihály Héder
Resource requirements

This is a hard one. Currently there is no support for any elements of this whatsoever

  • Standardization
  • SAML Stack development
  • blood and sweat
+1'sConstantin Sclifos, RENAM
-1'sWolfgang Pempe, DFN: Such a dynamic approach would raise issues concerning trust and privacy. An attribute authority must be in control of the list of SPs that are entitled to perform attribute queries and (possibly) recieve PII.


StepUp

Title

Two Factor (something)

Description
  • Drive two factor towards ubiquity with low cost - create an eduToken (for the users that do not have a phone; critical mass can bring down the price even more. It can be implemented as a kickstarter campaign).

    • Challenges in deploying multi-factor in EU, partially due to the costs and partially due to the cost involved. A cost-effective approach would help.

    • An edu-token  as  a separate ‘token’ may reintroduce token management aspects (losing the token etc)

    • management is (will be even more) a non issue as the majority of people will use phones. We should strike for that.

    • Technically this problem can be solved, taking the above considerations into account.
      The real problem is how to scale the token vetting over EU. This is especially challenging for research collaborations.
ProposerFrom data gathering exercise
Resource requirements<money? effort? coordination? infrastructure?>
+1's<for others to voice their support - add your name here>
-1'sWolfgang Pempe, DFN: I believe this is out of scope for GÉANT, you would need a dedicated organization for that purpose


Title

eduTEAMS and guest IdPs (actually Identity Assurance)

DescriptioneduTEAMS and guest IdPs - use-cases: need to support social IDs and guest IdP, but it need additional LoA. Step up authN as a service is in the plan
Proposerfrom data gathering exercise
Resource requirements<money? effort? coordination? infrastructure?>
+1's

isn't this the work being done in IoLR +REFEDS?

Some of it is - implementation in service contexts is not. It is expected any work in GEANT would do this, leaning on results from the above


eduroam


Title

eduroam SP-as-a-service

Description

With eduroam Managed IdP, there is a service which takes all RADIUS hassle off of Identity Providers. There is no equivalent for eduroam SPs. I.e. a future eduroam SP either needs to set up a local RADIUS server and connect it to the NRO, or (if the NRO supports it) connect the Wireless Controller directly to an NRO server - losing all advanced features such as VLAN assignment. For small hotspots, there is a possible additional complication if the hotspot has a dynamic IP address, which makes the interconnection via RADIUS' shared secrets infeasible. Right now, such potential hotspots are not serviceable by eduroam infrastructure.

The goal of this activity is to create a self-service web portal where any prospect SP can register his hotspot (requiring sign-off by the NRO; comparable to eduroam Managed IdP) - regardless whether he has a static IP address, a dynamic one, or doesn't even know what an IP address is in the first place. The new hotspot's RADIUS connectivity is tested in real-time (e.g. using a credential from eduroam Managed IdP, a good complement to this service) and the new SP is instantly connected to the eduroam infrastructure. Where the NRO admin confirms that a particular hotspot maps to a specific realm or Managed IdP instance, the SP can even get VLAN ID assignments for his own users (that part of the use case is possibly a bit weak as an SP who does not know about setting up a RADIUS server likely also doesn't know about VLANs to begin with).

For the technicalities of the uplink itself, there should be support for multiple attachment anchors (=RADIUS servers behind the web interface) because geographical proximity to the hotspot is important for performance reasons.

The remaining complexity for the SP which this service will not take away is: phyiscal installation of APs, controllers, and the configuration of those so that they are providing proper local eduroam.

To ensure service quality on such "no clue" SPs, it could be made mandatory to install a probe at the site so eduroam Operations can monitor the hotspot quality.

ProposerStefan Winter
Resource requirements

VM for web interface, VMs for RADIUS attachment anchors, a clever idea how to handle registering hotspots with dynamic or unknown IPs

CommentsRhys Smith, UKf: just to say that Jisc Liberate, our managed SAML IdP/eduroam IdP/eduroam SP/ABFAB IdP/ABFAB SP/web proxy service, will have the eduroam SP bit towards the start of 2018. Stefan's description is a slightly different use case, however, so I think it doesn't really overlap here.
+1'sRhys Smith, UKf: sounds like a good way to get new visited eduroam sites on board.

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Title

Scale eduroam infrastructure to the size of WIFI4EU

Description

There were a multitude of reasons why the GÉANT community couldn't run the infrastructure for WIFI4EU.

Sufficient issues were exposed by managing this as a single centrailsed infrastructure (partially addressed by "get eduroam", "eduroam DEEP Learning", "eduroam SP-as-a-Service"). By identifying all the scaling blocks to existing eduroam services we'd be able to offer advice, guidance and technology push into govroam, WIFI4EU and eduroam services to support the existing infrastructure and development in new territories.

ProposerBrook
Resource requirementsPeople
+1's

Georgi Tsochev, BREN

Reimer Karlsen-Masur, DFN-PKI

Great chance to accelerate the deployment of secure public Wi-Fi systems in the world and to inter-connect them. Related to my proposal of inter-roaming, but a separate work item dedicated to WiFi4EU is still preferred. (Hideaki Goto, NII)


TitleDevelop inter-roaming architecture and "eduroam on NGH"

eduroam/govroam on City Wi-Fi

Description

Develop an inter-roaming architecture that connects various Roaming Consortia (RC) including eduroam, govroam, City Wi-Fi (secured), WiFi4EU, etc. to enable roaming, with or without Passpoint.

Make the deployment of off-campus eduroam/govroam services much easier. For example, eduroam accounts can be enabled on City Wi-Fi world-wide.

Contribute to the improvement of Hotspot 2.0 to make "eduroam on NGH" possible. (The current HS2.0 specifications and some implementations are known to have some issues hampering large RC creation.)

Contribute to the revisions of the WRIX specifications to make them as much compatible as possible with eduroam's. WRIX-i (interconnect) and WRIX-L (location) are the targets.

ProposerHideaki Goto, NII (out of EU :)
Resource requirementspeople, (more official and stronger) collaborative work with WBA, human network with WiFi4EU, WBA member fee if required
+1's<for others to voice their support - add your name here>

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