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Tuesday 25th February 2025 - Work Package Kick-off Meeting

Present: Hannah Short, Sally Chambers

Apologies: Maarten

WP5 Participants 
Geant - 1 PM - Christos 
Nikhef - 1 PM - David G
GRnet - 1 PM - Nicolas 
EGI - 1 PM - Valeria 
CERN - 2 PM - Hannah 
Surf - 1 PM - Maarten 
KIT - 1 PM - Marcus
DARIAH - 2 PM - Sally & Michael
PSI - 1 PM - Bjoern 
STFC - 1 PM - Dave K
CSC - 1 PM - Manne

Agenda

  1. Introduction to WP5: Compendium and Recommendations
    1. WP5 Description
    2. WP5 Presentation from Kickoff
  2. M5.1 - Compendium Workshop [M15, May 2025]
    1. Collocate with EGI Annual Conference 2025, Santander, 2-6 June 2025
    2. Call for Contributions - deadline: 20th March 2025
    3. Goal: Information Gathering 
  3. Compendium 
    1. Compendium as simple as possible
    2. Audience: Research Infrastructures
    3. Flow chart - Decision making tree, e.g. AAI: self-hosted or outsourced (part of it)
    4. Possible link to the OSCARS project? Beta testers of the compendium
      • September 2024
      • September 2025 - location TBC
      • ‘Faculty eduPersonAffiliation in token’. for EOSC discussion
  4. Use Case Contribution from RIs in WP3 
  5. AOB
  6. Date of the Next Meeting 
    1. Meeting before to prepare?
    2. TIIME Unconference, 1st April 


Notes

  • David G: the word compendium was inspired by the Terena Compendium which helped NRENs compare between each other https://resources.geant.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/TERENA-Compendium-2011.pdf 
  • Confluence may make most sense as a format
  • AEGIS will take responsibility longer term for maintenance
  • Comparing: compliance, what are you going to choose? Sustainable and scalable choices
  • Infrastructures that provide AAI as a service, join up with one of the ESFRI RIs in your domain
  • Link with EOSC - use case, also mention the data space, Health Copernicus, EOSC Federation: https://oscars-project.eu    
  • Need to provide reasonable alternatives to using Google Docs, bearing in mind small communities' budgets etc 
  • OSCARS https://oscars-project.eu 
  • Audience: 
    • Research infrastructure managers 
    • National EOSC Nodes
    • Unlikely any researchers
  • Decision tree, how do you get started? Join up with an ESFRI? Do it yourself? Buy something? People want their own logo
  • Identity Management, Community Management, Infrastructure Management, Site Local Infrastructures Management 
  • Use Case Contribution from RIs in WP3 (not used all their PMs but could contribute to WP5)
    • Initial audience for the works 
  • EGI Conference potential workshop location https://www.egi.eu/event/egi2025/ (potentially with a hybrid version)
  • 16:20 - 17:30 Compendium and Recommendation slot in the AARC All Hands meeting
  • Affiliation information in tokens (e.g. DARIAH did not share eduPersonAffiliation so could not get credits)
    • Potential use case where we can provide guidance (this can be done automatically)
    • We can provide the advantages and disadvantages - we need to go beyond pros and cons - kind of 'handholding' - policy
  • Need to find a balance between best practices and real life in the compendium, examples are also very important
  • Training materials? Training courses in the  - 'PDK', architecture, https://aarc-community.org/training/
  • In-person to 'Introduction to Identity Management' - videos
  • Diagram: sources of information for the Compendium  
  • Next steps 
    • March 19: TIIME preparation (Sally, Michael, Hannah)
    • March 20th: EGI conference proposal deadline
    • April 1: TIIME in person meeting
    • June: EGI Conference hybrid

Actions

  • Sally to contact Ilaria to confirm EGI workshop (or confirm that we need to apply officially)
  • Sally, Michael, Hannah to prepare agenda for TIIME 1 hour session - 19th March - 12:00 CET   
  • Hannah to prepare a diagram/infographic of what the compendium is all about

Thursday 30th January 2025 - Initial Coordination Meeting 

Present: Hannah Short, Sally Chambers 

Decisions

  • Compendium workshop due Month 15 - collocate with EGI
    • Information Gathering 
  • WP5 to participate in the AARC TREE meeting at TIIME 


Actions

  • Hannah to contact participants to get a concrete name
  • Sally to contact Ilaria to confirm EGI workshop
  • Sally invite people to next meeting, Feb 25 14:00 - 15:00 CET
  • Sally & Hannah to prepare a list of questions about the Compendium, e.g. website hosting etc. 


Discussion points

  • Compendium as simple as possible
  • Audience: Research Infrastructures
  • Flow chart - decision making tree - self-hosted or outsourced
    • Options 
    • Self-hosted
    • Outsourcing (part of it) 
  • Possible link to the OSCARS project? Beta testers of the 
    • September 2024
    • September 2025 - location TBC
    • ‘Faculty eduPersonAffiliation in token’. for EOSC discussion


Compendium - Website 

  • Tending towards a website 
  • Maintenance afterwards ?
  • Help with visuals? Possibly Ilaria, possibly Dariah

Team 

  • CERN: Hannah
  • DARIAH: Sally, Michael, Laure (Matej, Tibor)
  • Check other partners: Géant - 1 PM; Nikhef - 1 PM; GRnet - 1 PM; EGI - 1 PM; CERN - 2 PM;  Masarykova Univerzita - 1 PM; Surf - 1 PM; KIT - 1 PM; CSC  - 1 PM; DARIAH - 2 PM;  STFC - 1 PM; Paul Scherrer Institut - 1 PM
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